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    Take a lot, Temu, Ali Express and alternatives to getting gear

    Branded goods imported from Temu are all counterfeit. "fLeatt" gloves disintegrated on the first ride. All other brands I've seen are definitely not printed the same and sizing is way out.
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    GLOVES (winter)

    Hele wereld vol brands. My enigste gear wat BMW maak is een paar gloves. Res is alles ander brands. Snaakse storie maar BMW is baie goed geprys teenoor ander maar die gaan nou nie oor BMW vs ander brands nie. Dit gaan oor die regte handskoene dra om jou warm en veilig te hou. Ek staan by...
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    GLOVES (winter)

    Google “degloving” Then click on images.
  4. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    I know you :D :D :D
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    It is my hypothetical situation. So in this case I was the rider.
  6. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Same impact means just that. Exactly the same. Same contact points, same limbs, same everything.
  7. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    What does the rest of him look like?
  8. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Same rider. Same speed. Same impact. Different gloves. Does synthetics and fabric protect the same as kangaroo leather. Does this logic apply to all gear? Converse sneaker vs dedicated leather boot?
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    It means he went down without his hands taking the impact first. If his hands took the same impact Johan's did they would not survive. Not all impacts are the same. That is the point.
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    That means everything! I dress for the slide, not the ride. If they looks like my dog got old of them and nothing is left then what does that tell you? I've take tumbles on the MTB without damage to myself at all. And I've had low speed tumbles with hectic damage. You can't always walk away...
  11. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Have to agree. No hands, no work, no food, no shelter, no bike, just sad.
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Did you look at the photo JohanP posted about going down at 120km/h and sliding for 80m. Glove held up just fine. Will a mechanic glove do this? Who knows. Maybe the belt sander test is needed.
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Glad it ended well for everyone.
  14. M

    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    Spending R1500 and not pursuing a warranty claim? Disposable income :D :D :D
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    The argument for durability is moot though. It is all about protection. I have mountain bike gloves that lasted me for 10 years. MANY kms and they are holding up. It is a glove right? It outlasted a pair of Alpinestars bike specific gloves. Would I take them on the bike? HELL NO. They won't...
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    BMW GS Gloves & Alternatives

    I have some reservations with these. I'm sure they'll hold up during a light altercation with dirt but tar.... yoh... I can spot multiple failure points. Like Johan said, these are mechanic gloves, not riding gloves. As for outlasting the BMW gear... looking forward to your review.
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