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Skaiidawg

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Riding too slow, not attempting to reach hiway speed..
That's your opinion and still they did nothing wrong, whether they were up to speed or slower they were still hit by the car while being innocent.
 

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That is not an opinion...

You may not obstruct the flow of traffic. There is also a minimum speed you must travel at on a freeway.

It is the duty of the vehicle attempting to merge to do so safely, just as it is the duty of the vehicles already on the highway to yield in a safe manner.
 
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One also stand stunned by the lack of protection a God offers his riders while bidding his work......

Newspaper heading; "His blood warriors" lose battle with Toyota.
So if the biker in the accident happens to be you, it remains just an accident? Uncalled for indeed.
Being a Christian doesn't freeware you of such things. Life happens.
When God sends rain during a drought, it rains on all people....
Conversation not appropriate for this thread.

Biker in front of the truck, already on the highway caused the whole dilemma.
Not a nice thing to happen to any biker.
 

BuRP

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Self-appointed Road Captains...... the bain of biking, small-dick syndromed morons assuming god-like powers in the vain hope of perhaps getting laid by trying to stamp their sudden 'authority' onto unsuspecting normal traffic minding their own business - somewhere somehow there's a recipe for disaster in there, which then of course is blamed on others because "taking responsibility" is not part of their curriculum.
 

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I joined a few group rides at one point a few years ago due a nagging friend..... quickly realised the mix of novice riders, people who have no idea of common group riding protocols and those who just don't give a F is a deadly concoction! On top of that is a "Road Cap" who thinks he has something to prove and I quickly exited the death pool before I got wiped out due to another riders stupidity....

Quickly learnt that there are also many riders who have no or little idea what they are doing in these groups, and then also putting their safety and lives in the hands of other people....

Leave me be with 2 or three well known friends and this (bar solo) is the best option for me!
 

Jacobsroodt

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Looking at the video I am glad the SUV passed the moose test. But only just.

One of my pet hates is right hand lane dwellers - plentiful on Western Cape highways.
What is the first rule of the road again?

I think our lady was:
- leisurely sitting in the right lane,
- Comfortably fast asleep/
- on her phone.
 

manxkipper

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That's your opinion and still they did nothing wrong, whether they were up to speed or slower they were still hit by the car while being innocent.
Every road user has a duty to ensure that they behave according the the rules of the road. Those rules are for the safety of all road users. For riders to ride slowly in circumstances where they could endanger themselves and/or other road users is irresponsible. So your "doing nothing wrong" comment is patently incorrect.
 
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In my opinion it is the relative speed that hurts you, the speed differential between you and whatever is around you

My son qualified for his drivers licence in Germany where they required eight hours of Autobahn driving with a particular focus on merging and demerging at on and offramps.

The theoretical course included the estimation of braking distances for different vehicle types under different climatic conditions.

Unfortunately these aspects do not feature much in our environment
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But I am in full agreement concerning the utterly bullshit, fake, omnipotence of the vaunted Road Captains which make up their herd guidance rules as they go along.

To my mind herd behaviour has always been characterised by taking the lowest IQ and dividing that by the herd population.

So my son and I go on a quick breakfast run to Sabie, mainly for the 200 km of mountain passes in that region. From Sabie down to Hazyview, up to Graskop and then on to Pelgrims and home.

Except that we hit a BMW Herd, lead by the Official BMW Road Captain, riding two by two alongside each other, as if to board the Ark, at a majestic 58.9km/h, just outside Graskop.

The Tailgunner, or whatever title the Rearmost Official aspires to, probably Sphincter Sargeant, rides in a zig zag pattern, blocking, or attempting to block, all passing traffic!

We did not lose much time dispatching this circus!
 

BuRP

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My son qualified for his drivers licence in Germany where they required eight hours of Autobahn driving with a particular focus on merging and demerging at on and offramps.

I didn't know that but am impressed, as that bit is VERY important there!
Knowing Germany's Autobahns I told a few friends on bikes that IF they venture in the Fast Lane they better look in their mirrors, and prepare to move right and make space for cars - which was met by sarcasm & unbelief, plus smirks.
They all remember it well, some cars are WAY faster than bikes there, and they EXPECT you to move over - in time!!
 

Skaiidawg

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Every road user has a duty to ensure that they behave according the the rules of the road. Those rules are for the safety of all road users. For riders to ride slowly in circumstances where they could endanger themselves and/or other road users is irresponsible. So your "doing nothing wrong" comment is patently incorrect.
Sure they do, however they were still in the lane to merge with the freeway when they were hit by the car. There is a solid white line to their right and you are not allowed to cross it, you know that don't you? The rule of not crossing the white line is there for all road users. They still had enough time and room to accelerate to merge safely with the freeway. So your comment, "patently incorrect" is indeed incorrect.
 

Skaiidawg

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That is not an opinion...

You may not obstruct the flow of traffic. There is also a minimum speed you must travel at on a freeway.

It is the duty of the vehicle attempting to merge to do so safely, just as it is the duty of the vehicles already on the highway to yield in a safe manner.
Yes it is his opinion on them not trying to reach the relevant speed to safely merge. Go watch the video again and look past the point of the accident forward. They still have on a rough estimate 100 - 150m to accelerate from their speed (lets say 60km/h) to at least 80km/h before they merged with the traffic. So which traffic did they obstruct?
 

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That oke right in front... the group as a collective needs to look at what they did wrong.

Does it suck for the individuals that got struck. Yes !

It is highly optimistic that group as a whole was ready to move at highway speeds.
 

2StrokeDan

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In my opinion it is the relative speed that hurts you, the speed differential between you and whatever is around you

My son qualified for his drivers licence in Germany where they required eight hours of Autobahn driving with a particular focus on merging and demerging at on and offramps.

The theoretical course included the estimation of braking distances for different vehicle types under different climatic conditions.

Unfortunately these aspects do not feature much in our environment
.
But I am in full agreement concerning the utterly bullshit, fake, omnipotence of the vaunted Road Captains which make up their herd guidance rules as they go along.

To my mind herd behaviour has always been characterised by taking the lowest IQ and dividing that by the herd population.

So my son and I go on a quick breakfast run to Sabie, mainly for the 200 km of mountain passes in that region. From Sabie down to Hazyview, up to Graskop and then on to Pelgrims and home.

Except that we hit a BMW Herd, lead by the Official BMW Road Captain, riding two by two alongside each other, as if to board the Ark, at a majestic 58.9km/h, just outside Graskop.

The Tailgunner, or whatever title the Rearmost Official aspires to, probably Sphincter Sargeant, rides in a zig zag pattern, blocking, or attempting to block, all passing traffic!

We did not lose much time dispatching this circus!
This post made my day!!
 
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