michnus
Bachelor Dog
Yebo yes! Schalk I remember you well. :thumleft:
Doing the trip in stages is much better on the budget and you are doing it right! meaning you can spend as much time seeing, exploring and getting to know a country than racing through it while having to stick to a time frame. I follow many travelers and adding a time limit to a trip often leads to a hellova lot of stress and not much enjoyment. I can honestly tell you now from experience taking it slow is the absolute best way to get out the other side with a sane mind and wallet.
Also the people that rush an extended trip like this end up with ' selective memory syndrome' :biggrin:. We have experienced it. Because you are not in a routine like your day to day job doing sort off the same thing everyday driving back and forth to work, your mind do not work the data and store it like a computer. With routine work your brain do not exercise. Look I am no scientist or psychologist so I rely on my pseudoscience here. Feeding your brain everyday with new stuff it needs to deal with, you start to forget things, can't remember stuff and places you have seen 2 months before. It is because you experience new things everyday, you brain must compute the stuff everyday. You bloodywell get a memory overload. You need to park off for a week or so at places to do some diary work or check your photos and edit them. Like defragging the brain :biggrin:
The only reason you go to Nairobi is for Jungle Jungle and to get your bike sorted for the next half of the trip, tyres, service and so on. If you can get your bike sorted with Denis in Dar es Salaam you can ride around Nairobi with ease and wild camp or just stay in camps.
The rest of the way through Sudan is the same, Ethiopia is the same and you must get your visa either before hand or wait in Nairobi to send your passport back to SA. Same for Sudan, just check the times, they issue the visa valid from date of issue. It might bugger up your times.
Then, the SS FAIL from Wadi to Aswan apparently the road is open for the last few months and you do not have to use that piece of **** ferry anymore. But use Mazar to do your paperwork in Wadi. https://www.pikipiki.co.za/travel-route-around-the-world/sudan/
You can go from Sudan to Saudi via Port Siad, but you need to get your visa for Saudi in Khartoum, but still make sure you can get into Jordan from Saudi then to Israel. I still think going into Egypt is the quickest way and then to Taba into Israel and will cost the least.
Africa East side is absolutely no problem for travel. We also very rarely stuck to the main route everybody else uses for this overland. There is no need to eat tar and more to see taking the back roads.
Israel is moer expensive! So fill up in Egypt and you can get to Ashdod with one tank. Israel is super cool and you can wild camp nearly anywhere. But fuel is R20per/L and bread, milk and beer double SA. Also insurance there is ******* crazy expensive. I will post you the shipper in Israel details and arrange before hand when the ferry is leaving that you only spend a few days in Israel if need be. The shippers are not scoundrels and unlike the Egyptians wont shaft you in the ***.
The R12000 was for both of us. So you will get away cheaper. You will also have your own butler
Trying to ship from Egypt I promise you, you WILL chew off your own arms from frustration. The Israeli's and Italian as super efficient and fast.
Europe is expensive!!!! Make no mistake! But.... keep to super markets, camp and wild camp as much as possible and you can get away with around 34Eu - 45eu per day including fuel maybe even cheaper, check for Couch Surfing if you are okay with it. We do not like it and will rather wild camp than that. I think fuel is now around R18per liter there. The best is to cut your speed to 100km/h from start. You save 30% more fuel and have less chance of stopping your trip due to an accident with a local or animal. Also the wear on your bike, tyres and such is much less, which will help with replacing stuff too often.
Yes please keep in touch, if you are not on Facebook get on it, as it is the easiest way to follow fellow travelers. You do not have to post like a frantic pimple face teen, just an update now and then so we can follow and maybe yes we will meet up. When you post on Facebook do it on the HorizonsUnlimited page as it is dedicated for that.
Depending on your route try and get out of Eu as fast as possible or store your bike somewhere. Check on HorizonsUnlimited for people with storage place. Most wont charge you. Also get your Carne canceled once out of Israel as you do not need it in Eu. Eu do not need any paper work for our bikes and your bike can effectively stay there forever.
We are leaving for Europe at end April to start again for another 6months.
Doing the trip in stages is much better on the budget and you are doing it right! meaning you can spend as much time seeing, exploring and getting to know a country than racing through it while having to stick to a time frame. I follow many travelers and adding a time limit to a trip often leads to a hellova lot of stress and not much enjoyment. I can honestly tell you now from experience taking it slow is the absolute best way to get out the other side with a sane mind and wallet.
Also the people that rush an extended trip like this end up with ' selective memory syndrome' :biggrin:. We have experienced it. Because you are not in a routine like your day to day job doing sort off the same thing everyday driving back and forth to work, your mind do not work the data and store it like a computer. With routine work your brain do not exercise. Look I am no scientist or psychologist so I rely on my pseudoscience here. Feeding your brain everyday with new stuff it needs to deal with, you start to forget things, can't remember stuff and places you have seen 2 months before. It is because you experience new things everyday, you brain must compute the stuff everyday. You bloodywell get a memory overload. You need to park off for a week or so at places to do some diary work or check your photos and edit them. Like defragging the brain :biggrin:
The only reason you go to Nairobi is for Jungle Jungle and to get your bike sorted for the next half of the trip, tyres, service and so on. If you can get your bike sorted with Denis in Dar es Salaam you can ride around Nairobi with ease and wild camp or just stay in camps.
The rest of the way through Sudan is the same, Ethiopia is the same and you must get your visa either before hand or wait in Nairobi to send your passport back to SA. Same for Sudan, just check the times, they issue the visa valid from date of issue. It might bugger up your times.
Then, the SS FAIL from Wadi to Aswan apparently the road is open for the last few months and you do not have to use that piece of **** ferry anymore. But use Mazar to do your paperwork in Wadi. https://www.pikipiki.co.za/travel-route-around-the-world/sudan/
You can go from Sudan to Saudi via Port Siad, but you need to get your visa for Saudi in Khartoum, but still make sure you can get into Jordan from Saudi then to Israel. I still think going into Egypt is the quickest way and then to Taba into Israel and will cost the least.
Africa East side is absolutely no problem for travel. We also very rarely stuck to the main route everybody else uses for this overland. There is no need to eat tar and more to see taking the back roads.
Israel is moer expensive! So fill up in Egypt and you can get to Ashdod with one tank. Israel is super cool and you can wild camp nearly anywhere. But fuel is R20per/L and bread, milk and beer double SA. Also insurance there is ******* crazy expensive. I will post you the shipper in Israel details and arrange before hand when the ferry is leaving that you only spend a few days in Israel if need be. The shippers are not scoundrels and unlike the Egyptians wont shaft you in the ***.
The R12000 was for both of us. So you will get away cheaper. You will also have your own butler
Trying to ship from Egypt I promise you, you WILL chew off your own arms from frustration. The Israeli's and Italian as super efficient and fast.Europe is expensive!!!! Make no mistake! But.... keep to super markets, camp and wild camp as much as possible and you can get away with around 34Eu - 45eu per day including fuel maybe even cheaper, check for Couch Surfing if you are okay with it. We do not like it and will rather wild camp than that. I think fuel is now around R18per liter there. The best is to cut your speed to 100km/h from start. You save 30% more fuel and have less chance of stopping your trip due to an accident with a local or animal. Also the wear on your bike, tyres and such is much less, which will help with replacing stuff too often.
Yes please keep in touch, if you are not on Facebook get on it, as it is the easiest way to follow fellow travelers. You do not have to post like a frantic pimple face teen, just an update now and then so we can follow and maybe yes we will meet up. When you post on Facebook do it on the HorizonsUnlimited page as it is dedicated for that.
Depending on your route try and get out of Eu as fast as possible or store your bike somewhere. Check on HorizonsUnlimited for people with storage place. Most wont charge you. Also get your Carne canceled once out of Israel as you do not need it in Eu. Eu do not need any paper work for our bikes and your bike can effectively stay there forever.
We are leaving for Europe at end April to start again for another 6months.
