Just out of interest.....I've scratched around a bit.
On the older bikes, say the big singles 500-650cc, the weights are ALL around the 140/145 (dry) weight area.
The heaviest being the XT 660R (155), and the lightest the TT 600 (124) and the old XT 500 (140)..........lets sort of exclude them as "dual purpose/adventure" bikes, then the lightest dual purpose is the XT 600 Tenere (135).
I'm talking dry weights ONLY here.
.........how does this compare with the newer dual sport/adv bikes today, let's say from around 2010 upwards, and engine capacity 600cc upwards??
Is it only me, or are the new bikes heavier?? I know they have WAY more power, PTW Ratio is much higher, etc etc.......??
Here's a list of older Bikes I've Googled:
(Youll see I added +- 17kg to get to an approximate wet weight, on the GS Beemers a wee bit more, they have slightly larger tanks).
1983 Yamaha XT 600 Tenere 34L..................135 (dry).........................165 (wet)
2006 DR 650...................................................147 (dry).........................164 (wet)................17 kg added for wet (fuel/oils)
2006 XT 660 R.................................................173 (dry)........................190 (wet)................17 kg added
1982 XT 500....................................................140 (dry).........................157 (wet)................17 kg added
1983 Yamaha TT600........................................124 (dry).........................141) (wet)...............17 kg added
1983 Honda XL 600..........................................147 (dry).........................163 (wet)................17 kg added
1983 BMW R 80 G/S.........................................172 (dry)...........................195 (wet).............deducted 21 l (larger tank)
1992 BMW R 100 GS........................................198 (dry)...........................210 (wet).............deducted 22 l (larger tank)
1982 Honda XR 200...........................................102(dry)...........................109 (wet).............as per Specs
1994 Honda XR 400...........................................116,5 (dry)........................125 (wet).............as per Specs
1991 Kawasaki KLR 650.....................................168 (dry)...........................189 (wet)............as per specs
1992 BMW R 100 GS P/Dakar.............................197 (dry)..........................236 (wet).........deducted 39 kg (big tank and oil)
1998 BMW 1100 GS.............................................218 (dry)..........................248 (wet).........added 30 kg for fuel/oils
2006 BMW F 650 GS...........................................167 (dry)...........................192(wet).........added 25 kg for fuel/oils
On the older bikes, say the big singles 500-650cc, the weights are ALL around the 140/145 (dry) weight area.
The heaviest being the XT 660R (155), and the lightest the TT 600 (124) and the old XT 500 (140)..........lets sort of exclude them as "dual purpose/adventure" bikes, then the lightest dual purpose is the XT 600 Tenere (135).
I'm talking dry weights ONLY here.
.........how does this compare with the newer dual sport/adv bikes today, let's say from around 2010 upwards, and engine capacity 600cc upwards??
Is it only me, or are the new bikes heavier?? I know they have WAY more power, PTW Ratio is much higher, etc etc.......??
Here's a list of older Bikes I've Googled:
(Youll see I added +- 17kg to get to an approximate wet weight, on the GS Beemers a wee bit more, they have slightly larger tanks).
1983 Yamaha XT 600 Tenere 34L..................135 (dry).........................165 (wet)
2006 DR 650...................................................147 (dry).........................164 (wet)................17 kg added for wet (fuel/oils)
2006 XT 660 R.................................................173 (dry)........................190 (wet)................17 kg added
1982 XT 500....................................................140 (dry).........................157 (wet)................17 kg added
1983 Yamaha TT600........................................124 (dry).........................141) (wet)...............17 kg added
1983 Honda XL 600..........................................147 (dry).........................163 (wet)................17 kg added
1983 BMW R 80 G/S.........................................172 (dry)...........................195 (wet).............deducted 21 l (larger tank)
1992 BMW R 100 GS........................................198 (dry)...........................210 (wet).............deducted 22 l (larger tank)
1982 Honda XR 200...........................................102(dry)...........................109 (wet).............as per Specs
1994 Honda XR 400...........................................116,5 (dry)........................125 (wet).............as per Specs
1991 Kawasaki KLR 650.....................................168 (dry)...........................189 (wet)............as per specs
1992 BMW R 100 GS P/Dakar.............................197 (dry)..........................236 (wet).........deducted 39 kg (big tank and oil)
1998 BMW 1100 GS.............................................218 (dry)..........................248 (wet).........added 30 kg for fuel/oils
2006 BMW F 650 GS...........................................167 (dry)...........................192(wet).........added 25 kg for fuel/oils
