These were bought for a project that didn't materialize so both the panniers and racks are new and unused. The panniers are 41lt each and were originally for a Honda AT. The pannier racks are for a Triumph Tiger 955 (the only one's I could get hold of locally) but with a bit of skill can be modified to fit any bike I suppose. The items are in Jhb. Price = R3500 = a bargain of note :biggrin: