Tr0jan
Race Dog
As some have seen my GS is in the market, and Ive been toying with which bike it should be replaced with. The initial idea was a K1200S and DRZ 400. K1200S, nice bike,but not an off-roader (duh). DRZ I went to have a look at sidetracks, as he's DRZ is the benchmark in the world (thanks again vir die spin man!)
All nice, each bike built for its purpose, but I prolly wont be happy, need an all in one combo. I love speeding, and I love off-roading. I want to speed to where I want to go, then go offroad and speed some more. This narrows down my list quite a lot, but still a few choices there.
Below are what im interested in:
HP2
pros:
1. Light
2. Big wheels.
3. Diff and tubeless.
4. Grin factor
5. Great after sales service
cons:
1. small tank
2. Expensive
3. Not pillion friendly.
4. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
5. Low revving engine
6. Wind
7. Touring
R1200GSA
pros:
1. Huge tank
2. Diff
3. Tubeless
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes fairly well.
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
cons:
1. Heavy
2. Buffeting
3. Engineered look
4. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
5. Grin factor
6. Low revving engine
R1200GS
pros:
1. Lightish
2. Diff
3. tubeless.
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes fairly well.
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
cons:
1. Smaller tank than previous model.
2. Engineered look
3. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
4. Grin factor
5. Low revving engine
KTM990Adv
pros:
1. Can change gear ratios.
2. Big wheels.
3. Suspension
4. Digital Speedo
5. Grin factor
6. Comes in orange
7. High revving motor
8. Low center of gravity.
9. Designed, not engineerd.
10. High performance engine.
11. Good offroad cred.
12. Fast enough top end.
13. Pillion friendly.
14. Reliable
15. Touring
cons:
1. Tubes
2. Chain
3. Can be heavy on fuel
4. Chows tyres
5. KTM service
6. Fuel gauge
7. Gear indicator
650X-Challenge
pros:
1. Light
2. Reliable.
3. Big wheels
4. Great after sales service
5. Looks great.
6. Wide range of tires available.
cons:
1. Not pillion friendly
2. Small tank
3. 170 top end might be too slow for my liking.
4. Touring
640KTM
pros:
1. Good Offroader
2. Large tank.
3. Wide range of tyres available.
cons:
1. Carbs
2. long list of mechanical problems.
3. Not pillion friendly.
4. slowest of the lot.
5. Touring
Because of popular demand, these bikes have been added:
800GS
pros:
1. Light
2. Powerful
3. After sales
4. Good acceleration
cons:
1. Chain
2. Tubes
3. Need a lot of extras to be offroadable
4. Expensive
5. Engineered(ugly as sh#t)
6. Limited colours.
950SE
pros:
1. Light for a big bike.
2. Grin factor?
3. Offroad orientated
cons:
1. No screen
2. Unfriendly pillion seat?
3. Tubes, Chain.
4. Touring?
As per advise, lets add the Current 1150 to the mix.
R1150GS
pros:
1. Bigish tank
2. Diff
3. Tubeless
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes very well. (tried and tested)
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Extremely Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
12. I know the engine very well.
13. Cheap services (DIY)
14. Special Edition colours
15. Double section seat.
cons:
1. as Heavy as an obese elephant
2. Buffeting - crap screen
3. Engineered look
4. Cant change gear ratios(no chain)
5. Grin factor - has dimmed as i'm used to the bike.
6. Low revving engine
7. overdrive gear.
8. Analog clocks.
9. Bike a few cm too wide for my liking
10. low powered engine for its size.
All info above is based on my vague experience, or in chatting to the owners of these bikes. Please add either pros or cons of the bikes listed if you can? OR have ridden one and you like or dislike certain things.
This is not a finger pointing excersize, just one in which I can decide on paper what bike to buy next, else ill sell the new one in 6 months again.
According to paper it seems im going to the dark side, can this be true, nOOOOOOO
All nice, each bike built for its purpose, but I prolly wont be happy, need an all in one combo. I love speeding, and I love off-roading. I want to speed to where I want to go, then go offroad and speed some more. This narrows down my list quite a lot, but still a few choices there.
Below are what im interested in:
HP2
pros:
1. Light
2. Big wheels.
3. Diff and tubeless.
4. Grin factor
5. Great after sales service
cons:
1. small tank
2. Expensive
3. Not pillion friendly.
4. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
5. Low revving engine
6. Wind
7. Touring
R1200GSA
pros:
1. Huge tank
2. Diff
3. Tubeless
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes fairly well.
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
cons:
1. Heavy
2. Buffeting
3. Engineered look
4. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
5. Grin factor
6. Low revving engine
R1200GS
pros:
1. Lightish
2. Diff
3. tubeless.
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes fairly well.
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
cons:
1. Smaller tank than previous model.
2. Engineered look
3. Cant change gear ratios(chain)
4. Grin factor
5. Low revving engine
KTM990Adv
pros:
1. Can change gear ratios.
2. Big wheels.
3. Suspension
4. Digital Speedo
5. Grin factor
6. Comes in orange
7. High revving motor
8. Low center of gravity.
9. Designed, not engineerd.
10. High performance engine.
11. Good offroad cred.
12. Fast enough top end.
13. Pillion friendly.
14. Reliable
15. Touring
cons:
1. Tubes
2. Chain
3. Can be heavy on fuel
4. Chows tyres
5. KTM service
6. Fuel gauge
7. Gear indicator
650X-Challenge
pros:
1. Light
2. Reliable.
3. Big wheels
4. Great after sales service
5. Looks great.
6. Wide range of tires available.
cons:
1. Not pillion friendly
2. Small tank
3. 170 top end might be too slow for my liking.
4. Touring
640KTM
pros:
1. Good Offroader
2. Large tank.
3. Wide range of tyres available.
cons:
1. Carbs
2. long list of mechanical problems.
3. Not pillion friendly.
4. slowest of the lot.
5. Touring
Because of popular demand, these bikes have been added:
800GS
pros:
1. Light
2. Powerful
3. After sales
4. Good acceleration
cons:
1. Chain
2. Tubes
3. Need a lot of extras to be offroadable
4. Expensive
5. Engineered(ugly as sh#t)
6. Limited colours.
950SE
pros:
1. Light for a big bike.
2. Grin factor?
3. Offroad orientated
cons:
1. No screen
2. Unfriendly pillion seat?
3. Tubes, Chain.
4. Touring?
As per advise, lets add the Current 1150 to the mix.
R1150GS
pros:
1. Bigish tank
2. Diff
3. Tubeless
4. Bavarian after sales service
5. Fairly Fast
6. Crashes very well. (tried and tested)
7. Telelever/paralever
8. Extremely Reliable
9. Touring
10. Gear indicator
11. Fuel gauge
12. I know the engine very well.
13. Cheap services (DIY)
14. Special Edition colours
15. Double section seat.
cons:
1. as Heavy as an obese elephant
2. Buffeting - crap screen
3. Engineered look
4. Cant change gear ratios(no chain)
5. Grin factor - has dimmed as i'm used to the bike.
6. Low revving engine
7. overdrive gear.
8. Analog clocks.
9. Bike a few cm too wide for my liking
10. low powered engine for its size.
All info above is based on my vague experience, or in chatting to the owners of these bikes. Please add either pros or cons of the bikes listed if you can? OR have ridden one and you like or dislike certain things.
This is not a finger pointing excersize, just one in which I can decide on paper what bike to buy next, else ill sell the new one in 6 months again.
According to paper it seems im going to the dark side, can this be true, nOOOOOOO
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