man, this is now really getting under my skin - and sorry - it relates to the GS brand almost exclusively. maybe its the marketing that has finally caught up with them i do not know. But more and more am i seeing guys on 1200GSes wobbling along at traffic lights. Wearing all the expensive gear is not going to help. A lot of them cannot ride - period. If you want to learn go do some courses. For me it looks like its their first bikes - the type of mistakes they make are so silly and bloody dangerous. Maybe, a suggestion would be that BMW makes rider training (even if it is basic) compulsary for all bikes. Set an example. These guys are a danger to themselves, cagers and us.